tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11905858.post1286896730658684846..comments2024-02-22T03:24:41.617-05:00Comments on 33 1/3 has moved to http://333sound.com: ...and then there were 27Davidhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07317377313622554323noreply@blogger.comBlogger107125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11905858.post-29413673730638282442009-05-04T16:52:00.000-04:002009-05-04T16:52:00.000-04:00I for one wanted so much to read a book about Puss...I for one wanted so much to read a book about Pussy Galore, but I see no harm in including some broad-interest titles. There are still some solid choices I would definitely buy and read. Lou Reed, Cash, Phair, Aretha, Dylan, the Cramps(!!), Neil's arguably best album, the Stones, Television, Femmes, Stripes ... i.e. a pretty good percentage of the 27.<br />Congratulations to those on the short(er) list! And no sour grapes, I'll try to publish elsewhere. Everyone else please stop whining.D.https://www.blogger.com/profile/15976480382110527918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11905858.post-83603443730962896752009-05-04T03:02:00.000-04:002009-05-04T03:02:00.000-04:00yeah
Liz Phair - Exile in Guyville
for its influ...yeah<br /><br />Liz Phair - Exile in Guyville<br /><br />for its influence, it's a highly regarded album which changed the musical landscape for female singer songwriters. From Lilith Fair to Riot Grrrl, EIG moved people to discuss it, hate it and worship it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11905858.post-77180662737586236752009-04-30T00:41:00.000-04:002009-04-30T00:41:00.000-04:00Liz Phair - Exile In Guyville. That's all I have ...Liz Phair - Exile In Guyville. That's all I have to say.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11905858.post-36720915887989313172009-04-12T14:03:00.000-04:002009-04-12T14:03:00.000-04:00Please, I beg you to release the book about Ween's...Please, I beg you to release the book about Ween's "Chocolate And Cheese"! If you do, I promise to instantly go and buy every other book in the series!ZERO INTERESThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09337229852783150575noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11905858.post-74293931717753401322009-04-07T23:07:00.000-04:002009-04-07T23:07:00.000-04:00PLEASE do a book on Ween. They have a huge catalog...PLEASE do a book on Ween. They have a huge catalog and are ripe for critical analysis but they are not taken seriously by critics so there's nothing on them. Their music has much more going on in it than some of these other titles (Op Ivy?), and some of these other titles have been critically analyzed to death (Liz Phair, Radiohead, the Stones...). Please fill the void and write the first book on Ween!WCnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11905858.post-83595087998933804702009-04-06T13:38:00.000-04:002009-04-06T13:38:00.000-04:00OK, I'll say it. What's the big deal about Arcade ...OK, I'll say it. What's the big deal about Arcade Fire? I mean, I think they're a decent band, and I'd prefer to listen to them than many other bands, but why this adulation like they're doing something completely groundbreaking? To my ears, they are an amalgam of Echo and the Bunnymen/the Alarm/and Belle and Sebastian. Again, all good influences to have, in my book. I read these lavish pieces about the wonder of Arcade Fire and am ready to be amazed, only to end up shrugging my shoulders.pegleghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00886855632862437549noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11905858.post-38041299532745229862009-04-06T01:42:00.000-04:002009-04-06T01:42:00.000-04:00Other than White Blood Cells, this list is entirel...Other than White Blood Cells, this list is entirely "meh." I was hoping that they'd shift more toward 2000s music like Sigur Ros etc.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11905858.post-38153749440221734032009-04-05T22:41:00.000-04:002009-04-05T22:41:00.000-04:00I'm mildly disappointed that Lil Wayne beat Arcade...I'm mildly disappointed that Lil Wayne beat Arcade Fire to this stage of the game. If there are any 'wild card' possibilities, please consider Funeral.<BR/><BR/>Out of these I'm most excited for Radiohead, White Stripes, The Beatles and Violent Femmes.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12973465497499095182noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11905858.post-153390626435296422009-04-05T10:58:00.000-04:002009-04-05T10:58:00.000-04:00I was disappointed not to make it beyond the 170 f...I was disappointed not to make it beyond the 170 finalists, especially as my proposal was on a female (folk-rock) performer and there are so few women artists on the shortlist. However, I won’t be joining the whingers and mud-slingers. If you’re a serious writer with a serious proposal, you take it elsewhere; you don’t hang around bad-mouthing the editors, as many disgruntled souls are doing here. The final list looks to strike a balance between commercial imperatives and risk-taking, which is much what I would have expected from this series to date. I hope, after all that hard work, David had a relaxing vacation. Mind you, I intend to take up that offer of feedback on my proposal!Philip Wardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10533820381398938569noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11905858.post-75492072602757212362009-04-04T22:11:00.000-04:002009-04-04T22:11:00.000-04:00Question: how do you know when everything has alre...Question: how do you know when everything has already been said about any given subject? Is there a metric? Was there a big canyon somewhere filled with Information, Perspective, and Analysis on Leonard Cohen, and maybe ten years ago somebody took the very last bit of it to make a crappy blog, and now we're stuck with nothing else to say? Also, where did they information come from in the first place? God, or possibly aliens? Can we write them and request more? If we do, should we include an SASE?<BR/><BR/>Subquestion: What subjects have already reached this limit? I'm looking at you, Thomas Mann!ABlockhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14481889129858756078noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11905858.post-12199544320701619962009-04-03T19:13:00.000-04:002009-04-03T19:13:00.000-04:00Please...Please let Operation Ivy make the list. ...Please...Please let Operation Ivy make the list. It is such an important album to so many people around the world. And I have long wondered the magic that went into making that album. The importance of that album in Punk and Ska can not be overstated. It is the only album by them and it inspired millions of us to pick up a guitar.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11905858.post-54677935926487039892009-04-03T15:00:00.000-04:002009-04-03T15:00:00.000-04:00Songs the Lord Taught Us 'cause Lux's death has go...<I>Songs the Lord Taught Us</I> 'cause Lux's death has got me thinking about the Cramps again. <I>Are We Not Men?</I> 'cause...is there really no 33 1/3 on Devo? Now, that's a rock tale worth telling.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11905858.post-29741019221119828802009-04-03T11:09:00.000-04:002009-04-03T11:09:00.000-04:00Just gimme The Cramps and ELO -- the two ends of t...Just gimme The Cramps and ELO -- the two ends of the spectrum of white boy rock!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11905858.post-12005411045184482442009-04-03T11:00:00.000-04:002009-04-03T11:00:00.000-04:00For what it's worth, here are the new titles I'd l...For what it's worth, here are the new titles I'd like to see:<BR/><BR/>AC/DC - Highway to Hell<BR/>Aretha Franklin - Amazing Grace<BR/>The Cramps - Songs the Lord Taught Us<BR/>David Bowie - Ziggy Stardust<BR/>Devo - Q: Are We Not Men? A: We Are Devo<BR/>Dinosaur Jr: You're Living All Over Me<BR/>Johnny Cash - American Recordings<BR/>Kiss - Destroyer<BR/>Leonard Cohen - Songs of Leonard Cohen<BR/>Liz Phair - Exile in Guyville<BR/>Lou Reed - Metal Music Machine<BR/>Neil Young - Tonight's the Night<BR/>Rolling Stones - Some Girls<BR/>Television - Marquee Moon<BR/>Violent Femmes - Violent Femmes<BR/>White Stripes - White Blood CellsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11905858.post-38292274828916382182009-04-02T22:35:00.000-04:002009-04-02T22:35:00.000-04:00goddammit i was really looking forward to reading ...goddammit i was really looking forward to reading a book about modest mouse's lonesome crowded westAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11905858.post-63159709381198915912009-04-02T18:23:00.000-04:002009-04-02T18:23:00.000-04:00"I was really expecting a deluge of Dylan, Pink Fl..."I was really expecting a deluge of Dylan, Pink Floyd, Velvets, Smiths, Stones and Radiohead pitches. Instead, we get Slint, Ween, and Britney - hurrah!"<BR/><BR/>Anyone remember this quip when the long list was first posted way back in January? Funny how half the bands mentioned eventually ended up on the final list....Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11905858.post-77247988607526093942009-04-02T08:00:00.000-04:002009-04-02T08:00:00.000-04:00To whoever wrote this:"Putting Aretha and tattooed...To whoever wrote this:<BR/><BR/>"Putting Aretha and tattooed thug idiot Lil FUCKING Wayne(!?) in there is like giving the survivors of Katrina a lollipop. "<BR/><BR/>congratulations, you are the dumbest person on the internet.<BR/><BR/>And for the record, the best music can turn into the shittiest book very easily, and vice versa-- see Daydream Nation vs the Celine Dion book. So, the list tells me little.<BR/><BR/>That said, I sure ain't reading another book about the Beatles.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11905858.post-37334820428763687802009-04-01T12:39:00.000-04:002009-04-01T12:39:00.000-04:00Re- the reference above to Christgua's comment abo...Re- the reference above to Christgua's comment about these being books for people who love rock criticism, as opposed to those 'who love rock music'. That's fine, as long as it is not HIS brand of rock criticism they love! <BR/><BR/>Seriously, if there is one thing that this series of books shows it is how overrated the writing of the so-called 'dean of American rock critics' and many of his dinosaur colleagues are. If you want to compare him with writers of his own era, he isn't fit to polish Nick Kent or Charles Shaar Murray's shoes, dude. And try reading Geoff Dyer's <I>But Beautiful</I> and going back to rock crit. I'm afraid, rock 'criticism' doesn't really cut it anymore - I mean, what's the fuckin' standard that's being upheld? What's the ground upon which one's criticism stands. <BR/><BR/>It is instructive to read John Perry's <I>Electric Ladyland</I> book in this series, and his account of Christgua's judgement on Hendrix from his lofty perch as 'dean of the critics'. And doubly instructive to consider how many more enlightening reads this series has provided when compared to the useless canonizing of the likes of Christgua, et al.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11905858.post-81823843090244196692009-04-01T10:41:00.000-04:002009-04-01T10:41:00.000-04:00re: commercial calculation, you should do a search...re: commercial calculation, you should do a search for "league table" on the blog and see which books are selling before telling Continuum that they are really dumb.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11905858.post-2379706125131672742009-04-01T09:20:00.000-04:002009-04-01T09:20:00.000-04:00I agree with everyone who thinks this is a really ...I agree with everyone who thinks this is a really annoying list -- less representative of the range of rock music (esp. black styles!) then previous lists, and containing more uninteresting music then past lists, though of course none of us will agree about which ones are uninteresting.<BR/><BR/>The company would have to be really dumb, though, if the explanation is commercial calculation. Look at the prices these books are selling for on Amazon -- the indie ones are almost all going for full price, while the Beatles and other titles of popular records can be had for under $2. Maybe because they printed too many of these and now have to dump them, but I think it's because, as Christgau says, these books aren't for people who love rock, they're for people who love rock criticism. People who love rock criticism listen to Rum, Sodomy and the Lash or (put your choice here).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11905858.post-64975204941456126282009-03-31T22:14:00.000-04:002009-03-31T22:14:00.000-04:00Seriously, grow up people! I would read most of th...Seriously, grow up people! I would read most of these--Beatles, Slint, Ween, Aretha whatever. What a bunch of babies.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11905858.post-37295994166272691312009-03-31T16:51:00.000-04:002009-03-31T16:51:00.000-04:00This comments thread has me depressed about the st...This comments thread has me depressed about the state of music-writing today, or about the Internet, I'm not sure which. So many ridiculous generalizations and mis-characterizations about music here. And so much narcissism! I'm getting the impression people think just by submitting a proposal they deserve a book contract. What kind of sense does that make? It reminds me of when I taught college-freshmen, that 'I deserve an A grade just for showing up' mentality. <BR/><BR/>I'm not saying every album on this list personally excites me, and certainly there were others on the original list that excited me more. But the logic, or lack thereof, behind so many of these comments is appalling.Dave Hnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11905858.post-56959560739716378162009-03-31T15:32:00.000-04:002009-03-31T15:32:00.000-04:00ween?! amazing!ween?! amazing!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11905858.post-35510666753835920382009-03-31T13:26:00.000-04:002009-03-31T13:26:00.000-04:00Spiderland, please! And 24 Hour Revenge Therapy mu...<I>Spiderland</I>, <B>please</B>!<BR/> <BR/>And <I>24 Hour Revenge Therapy</I> must be chronicled too! C'mon; it'll sell tons, I promise!Christopher Rogershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03639159965826142986noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-11905858.post-11785370700711237412009-03-31T13:18:00.000-04:002009-03-31T13:18:00.000-04:00For all the people who are complaining that the li...For all the people who are complaining that the list is too mainstream or that Devo/Television/Cramps are classic rock, I'm not seeing too much in the way of better suggestions... <BR/><BR/>Maybe that's because it's easier to tear other people down than to put your ass on the line and do something better?Dave B.noreply@blogger.com